Who is up for a short #EngTalk this evening? :)
We know in the past few years a lot of Indonesian singers used English words in their songs.
Of course not only in songs now, sometimes in Indonesian language conversation we would use few or a lot of English words.
Let that be a general conversation with someone, the news coverage, the chat show on television and so on…
Yep! But here I am referring to Indonesian songs that use several English words in their songs @adelm31: yes! one of them is mocca!
So recently I found this song on upcoming elections encouragement titled “Pemiyuk”.. Has anyone heard it?
The lyric of the song was written by Yosie from Project Pop and sang by Project Pop featuring other Indonesian singers&celebrities.
Yes you can say it like that hehe “@agnesjefri: ost. for celebrating the election..”
There is one part that goes like this:
Tar dulu.. tar dulu.. tar dulu (hah?)/Saya ga bisa buru-buru (lho..)
Bagaimana saya bisa tahu (hm..m) / Calon pemimpin yang bermutu (eeeh)
Men, plis deh men, aw come on men (hehe) /Mbok ya situ, jangan jadi cemen (hehehe)
Skarang jamannya udah keren (ho-oh) / Pake internet, google aja friend (yoi!)
(On this video you can skip to 1:20 for this bit)
But looking from the lyrics itself, what do you guys think of it?
I was quite surprised how Yosie has done the lyrics, but I must admit Yosie and Project Pop never fail me to laugh :D
Menurut admin pemakaian istilah-istilahnya sangat gaul di lagu ini, kembali ke pembahasan Indonesian-English yang terus berkembang, berevolusi, sepertinya Indonesian-English akan bahkan sudah menjadi bahasa keseharian beberapa orang.
Menurut fellas bagaimana? Fellas boleh jawab pakai bahasa Indonesia dan Inggris :)
“@pyj2690: Hmm…. i don’t think, but its so funny song hihihi Iya gaul banget ampe bingung englishnya gmn? Haha” <- Hmmmm…interesting point… @pyj2690
Fellas yang lain bagaimana? Kalau bisa jawab pakai bahasa Inggris ya :) That’s the whole point of #EngTalk :)
What do you think of this lyric? Admin thinks this lyric would encourage voting, do you think the same?
Or, what do you think of Indonesian-English in general? Do you think it is a good or bad thing?
@fiamaulana: It’s so easy to find people who speak both Indonesian & English. Society, TV, Socmed take a big part to make this happened.
I could not agree more with you @fiamaulana, do you think it’s a good thing or a bad thing?
@fiamaulana: t goes good when people know where to speak.. It goes bad when people start forgetting their own languages.
I don’t think they’re “a joke of useless words”, it’s just a way of putting it in the context of Indonesian-English @agnesjefri#EngTalk
@onlydiash: as long as ‘combining indo-english words’ is not used too much, that wudnt be annoying. But as indonesian people, we hav.. …to be proud of our nat language. Better to use fully indo language or fully eng language than mix them both.. but it doesnt matter that lyrics is such a funny joke for me lol
@ShadoRWZ: well.. indonesian-english could help us communicate in both language (if used correctly) , so.why not? aku sih yes.
What kind of writing? “@FajarNugrohoDA: not only in speaking but also in writing.”
@megagalee: its still ok though if it used with a full sentence, not a ‘campur2’ just like our celeb use to use it.
What about in the context of “encouraging voting”? Would Bahasa Indonesia Baku work@megagalee? Fellas?
@megagalee: language is about context n communication purpose,if people that u talk to undrstnd one of the language,why need to mix them?
What about, let’s say, Singlish (Singaporean English), what do you think of it @megagalee and fellas?
@Maulissakk: i can’t choose. Everything has a good side and a bad one.
@PutriAbilla: Bad thing, seriuosly. Terlihat maksa dan lucu jadinya minnnn..
Knowing elections are coming, do fellas rather hear the candidates speak in Indonesian, Indonesian-English, English, or all?
Ehm… I don’t understand what you are saying here.. @lestarihai
“@adibalubis: Good! Why not? It’s one way to speak english well” Re: Indonesian-English good or bad?
@bieberbarries: i think that’s not that bad as long as people dont use it too much because sometime its kinda annoying
@sudirrr:I sometime use it when talking to friends who could speak english. But the way celebs use it.. It’s awful, really
@NajihatulFitri: its good for practice to increase ur english as long as not *lebay* like cinta laura lol
@FajarNugrohoDA: Just like when I text someone or post my status in socmed, sometimes I use English & Bahasa. e.g: “Jangan lupa, text me ya!”
@widyaast: It’s becoming a habit to meRT @EnglishTips4U: what do you think of Indonesian-English in general? Do you think it is a good or bad thing?
@zahradr: @onlydiash agree but sometime u jst can’t help it that some words slip from ur mouth in diff language when u’re talkin
Do you mean Indonesian Idol? Hehehe “@schecterazhar: Indonesian, because it’s not INDONEISAN IDOL”
“@megagalee: min, I think u want to rise up the ‘labil ekonomi’ issue again, lol” Is that Vicky Prasetyo case?
@beebe1D: I rather the candidates speak in Indonesian, so people can understand what they talk about easily.
@Zakir_Drivhya: Not bad for entertaining. But, sometime when I heard indo-english mix make me creeps :3
@rgta0726: Indonesian.Because the candidates will speak to all indonesian people who need to understand what the candidates’ says
@salsahilaksmi: it’s ok as long as we know how to use grammar properly. People get lost with”keep smile” instead of keep smiling
THAT IS SO TRUEEE @salsabillaksmi!!!!! It has been driving all @EnglishTIps4U admins crazyyyyyyy!!!!
@ArienDewiR: I agree with “encouraging voting”. It’s like marketing strategy to get people’s attention, so they will interest more
@IzazakiaPutra: there must be balance between both languages. we can’t lose our identity neither we can’t lose recognition of inter. eyes
“@NaoCenQ: hat’s call code mixing and code switching. Hahaha sociolinguistics :)” Re: why need to mix them? by @megagalee
@NajihatulFitri: fully indonesian ! Because people not at all could understand english.. how people now all about the candidates
@ArieDewiR: Bahasa Baku would still work. It depends on how the composer make the catchy song and lyrics, whatever the language is
@agnesjefri: speak english when campaign doesn’t mean not loving a nation,the problem are the whole indonesian understood?
@RestutieA: @rgta0726 but most of them are speaking by the two languages in order to show Indonesian people how smart is they are. :D
@syavirarizkha: honestly, sometimes I accidentally speak indonesian-english if I forget a word which is called in bahasa, but not too much :/
@LeeFirly: use English while doing campaign is good to encourage young people to participate
@sudirrr: Bahasa Indonesia yang baik dan benar or bahasa daerah is way better, because most people understand those two
@oliviachrista: for a song I’d rather not mix Indo-English, better just choose 1 of them. But if it use for a daily conversation, it’s OK.
:) “@salsabillaksmi: haha that’s a nice of you to say it. I made a conclusion based on what I’ve seen recently :)”
@lintangw: IMO i’d rather hear our legislative/president candidates speak in proper Indonesian languange or should I say bahasa baku because they are intelectual people. using mixed Indonesian-English will make them look like a fool and also not all indonesian people understand english very well. so, yeah I prefer the using of Bahasa Indonesia yg Baik & Benar
@onlydiash: @zahradr it comes frm habit, most of “bahasa gaul” r indo-eng mixed words, we heard it frm someone then tries to say it ryt?
@nvi2111: lang kan arbitrary.. :D
@salsahilaksmi: Indonesian but they must be able to speak Eng fluently to socialize with everyone around the world when they’re elected
@onlydiash: @salsabillaksmi agree w/ u, ppl these days wud follow up familiar eng words without knowing if its wrong in grammatical side
@deborauhl: sometimes i speak indonesian-english soalnya sering lupa what is that word mean apalagi kalau ujian vocab, kesel sendiri-_-
@dutawira: in Indonesia, the people speaking Indonesian-English sometimes have no ability to speak the proper Bahasa and English as well
So it seems Indonesian-English has been a habit to some, but I don’t think it’s any wrong either
As @nvi2111 said, “Language kan arbitrary”, it is indeed, it evolves and so on… yet so of course it is best to know when and where to use it.
@FOL_MALDINI: Intinya gunakan aja bahasa yang pas buat orang2 sekitar ato lawan bicara..di mana hrs mgghnakan english or bahasa.ato bhs ibu
I hope you have enjoyed this #EngTalk as much as I do :)
Compiled and written by @daedonghae at @EnglishTips4u on March 15, 2014