#EngClass: British English (3) – British English History

Hey fellas, ready for tonight’s session? I must warn you though, tonight’s session needs a lot more of your contribution ;)

Sadly it’s not a quiz, it’s not a game, but it’s not hard either. Don’t need to be scared or shy. It’s more like a relaxing English club discussion kind of thing but online for tonight and what we’re discussing tonight is….

Where did British English or even English Language itself come from?

Is it from Britain? Is it only created by England? Is it from somewhere else? How did it get up to we talk or type like this? So, let’s start! Tell us what you think, apa yang ada di benakmu atau pikiranmu.

 

So, here are some of your answers for the first question we’re starting on

 “Latin & french?” – @gadsya

 “England.” – @chachaicho

 “UK maybe.” – @gitaKuswara

 “Turkey, some 9000 yrs ago.” – @TaniaNataya:

 “Originally the first come from Celts people, so it form from Celtic, and get some influence Roman, France, Germany n Scotland.” – @Liia1116

 “It’s god’s will hahaha, Anglo-Saxon?” – @rezapongo

 ” I once read from a source (forget what was it) that English didn’t come from England/UK but Turkey..” – @alltimelfcfan

 “English is West Germanic language that was first spoken in England. …i got that from wikipedia lol.” – @syifa21

 “English originated from west Germany language (Anglo-Frisian dialects)that was brought by Germany invaders to Britain.” –@SatrioTeguh

 “The pioneer tribe of English language is Anglia, Saxon, Frisia, and Frank from Eastern Europe.” – @Hendry_Andreas

 “ada lg! English has 3stages, OLD, MIDDLE and MODERN. ” – @angelaamoy

 “As I know Britain once used French for few hundreds years. A possibility it was adapted from French.” – @HadiSyuja

 “English is classified West-Germany language fmly. Its combined from local languages that used by Norway & Denmark people” – @tieput

 “The first English that was used back then, was an old English from 3 ethnics, such as  German. But mostly the two ethnics influenced the English (old Eng), then mixed with Celtic language.” – @AriAGafur

 “min, I think English language has the same root with many European countries such as Germany, French, and Nederland.” – @Heni_HT

So, what do fellas think now we have these answers from you? Any other thoughts?

The reason admin brought it up tonight like this is to make this topic open and to let any opinion come from you and practising your English. Why? Have you noticed that nowadays, any history seemed unreal anymore to a lot of people? Many new findings with new technology. Moreover, some parts of history was believed to be changed or not as it is for any kind of reason it has.

As admin knows, the history of English language itself is hardly brought up even in English language studies or lessons, and from what admin read, as admin don’t really master on this subject although the curiosity grew bigger now, it seemed that English is a member of the Germanic family of languages.

(Source: pic.twitter.com/9DwvyXVE)

We can see that Germanic is a branch of the Indo-European language family, but there were developments later stating it is not from Anglo Saxon and some research of science resulted with Turkey as origin. (It’s not much but here’s one of them http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19368988 … @annjara_ )

It seemed that English itself has developed for years indeed, became a powerful language. England or as we know Inggris, which is part of UK of Britain, became really powerful and managed to make it a universal language.

“Sometime in history, when French colonized England, French was nobler than English (which was spoken by low class people only). It’s then spoken around the globe. I followed History of English Language class back then and it was interesting such a long a history of a language, influenced with politics.” – @iniuni:

 

“But since the Anglo-Saxon was invading England, i think, the most trusted development is that Germany is the origin. It can be proved from the literary works. The Shakespearean Sonnet was adapted from the Sonnet of Petrarch-Germany. So that, Germany has an important rule in developing the English language especially for the literary work.” – @puteriwidya:

 

“ProtoEnglish: Wst Grmnc Tribs livd, Trded, Fought Roman Emp. people who spoke latin before they arrived in Britain. So, some vocabs f Latin language entered these Germanic people (Anglo, saxon, etc) language before their arrival in Britain.

OldEnglish: The Germanic invaders dominated the people of Britain who spoke Celtic language. The Lang. that the invders uttered in Britain aftr the Celtic lang ws neglected calld Anglo-Saxon or Old English Lang. Old Eng ws strongly Influnced by North Germanic Language that was used by Norsemen or Viking. Old Eng. period ended when Normans who spoke French Dialect Conquered Britain.

MidEng: The Norman High ranking people used Anglo-Norman Lang but the lower class people used English or Anglo-saxon. Normans had a great influences in the development of English Lang at that time and producing the Middle English Language.” –  @SatrioTeguh

 

“And I don’t know what exactly the difference between England and Great Britain is. Aren’t they just the same? Unfortunately, they are not the same. In fact, England is now part of Great Britain which means England is a province of Great Britain the country.” –  @iancurly2992:

As I stated before, England is the province of the country Great Britain, sama halnya Bali adalah propinsi dalam negara Indonesia. Can you imagine what great power England has as a province/county to conquer the world and spread this English language.

“No it’s county, di UK propinsi dibilang county not country instead of province.” –  @biantoro_wisnu

 

 

“Well it can be from Turkey knowing that before the new settlers come, anglo-saxon, Britain wasn’t unpopulated. There were the forest dwellers about 8500 bc. Maybe they spoke the old english which was from Turkey, since there was nobody wrote anything down and the information just comes fossils, bones metal or relics. Thats my opinion.” –  @annjara_

 “Great Britain=England+Wales+Scotland,while England+Wales+Scotland+North Ireland=UK(utd kingdom). as far as I know, the official name of the country is “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.””- @Heni_HT

 

“They have now become Commonwealth countries where most of them get benefits from Britain itself such as in education.” – @andretrih

“the UK flag is a combination between English, Scottish, & old Irish flag. – GB flag: + merah dan dasar putih = England, x putih dan dasar biru=Scotland, x merah dasar putih=old Irish.” –  @greg_ario

” After middle English period, the period from 1500 to about 1650 is called Early Modern English period. It was the period when Shakespeare was born, the first English dictionary and English newspaper were published.” – @nakamuralia:

Here’s a link about the differences of GB and UK coming from a school website: http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/britain.html … Hopefully you all won’t be confused on GB and UK and England anymore now hehe

So if the question is where did British English came from? It is from English and England, yet why there’s British in front of it? British English seemed to come about due to the many version of English there are now, well, they conquer big places don’t they?

@SatrioTeguh: If you wanna know more about th history of Eng. Lang., you can read this book, A History of Th English Language by N.F. Blake

 

Maybe English should have come up with a different name now? Hehehe well enjoy your day fellas!

Compiled and written by @daedonghae at @EnglishTips4U on Tuesday – Wednesday, September 4 & 5, 2012.


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